The interpretation of blood splatter is different than no blood splatter. The character of the accused is not the main ingredient, especially that in this case, there was a lot of bashing going on in the media and in court. Robert Schlosser, Cathy's father, lives in a 900 . They should have had ongoing contact and been placed with family as soon as they were out of the hospital and they never should have been interviewed without their own attorney (Guardian ad Litem) present. Inflammatory and speculative Ruger #14-76187; described as the gun used by Diane and belonging to Steve Downs, was not the murder weapon. 3. Of course, her mental health has deteriorated. Nothing came from Diane herself. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. Completely unethical, and not in the best interest of those children. Or why the fact that he was a con artist made him such a credible guy in this case. Of course, because this is what she does when people put her on the spot and ask questions concerning her mother and the shooting. From the time Diane was a teenager, when a physician ordered visterol in an emergency room situation, it has been documented again and again that sedatives ingested while Diane is in pain, provoke a chemically induced hysteria in her. The casing from the bullets exactly matched, just like a fingerprint, the bullets that Diane had in her home from her own gun which was never found. Lise,,,,, yes you did. She keeps her emotions under tight control, presenting only socially acceptable feelings and burying other contradictory feelings.. I will not remove anything. Its a dangerous proposition when a lack of due process becomes acceptable because they know she is guilty. And if she did it, she has served her time without displaying any violent tendencies whatsoever. Children under the age of twelve may cognitively grasp the concept of truth and lie, but lack the conscience which compels people to apply the concept to their lives, or the strength to maintain the truth when adults coerce her to lie. They were traumatized and needed familiar faces to feel safe. Why on earth would anyone recommend leaving the kids with the grandparents? All the years in prison probably made her way more disturbed than she ever was. This is a conflict of interest. There is also a recording where she says that she had no idea who shot them. The men in her life were in no shape or form called on their irresponsible or wild behavior. The detectives and the state failed to act properly and it should not be an accepted practice. It no longer matters as far as the verdict, she was found guilty, but why no parole? That poor girl. Many individuals associated with the the child welfare system, for one reason or another, choose to adopt children. Basically, I dont believe the site owner has produced enough proof of anything. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. The blog tries to bring balance and more objectivity to a case that was TOTALLY one sided and still is. Agreed. As you might know, Dianes father passed away after many years of anguish over the fate of his daughter. If you listen to the recording, Christie clearly says I dont know who did it. She was asleep, thats why. She would have been released under strict conditions with the support of her family and under the care of a mental health specialist. After six weeks in Oregon where the children were happily spending time with their grandparents while Diane worked her postal route, the incident happened on a dark road that led to Diane being accused of murder and attempted murder. People can have a certain vibe and act out of the norms, but it does not make them necessarily guilty. Many troubling elements of the case were discovered after the trial, but there was enough during the proceedings to be asking questions. They lied about the ballistics. But you told Diane Downs to go ahead and get an apartment? There were good reasons to look at this mother, but the detective admitted on the stand that they stopped looking at anyone else after two weeks and the stranger on the road became a joke. Diane nowhad the title ofdangerous offender. In an earlier comment you stated that Diane had met all of the requirements for parole. As it was getting dark and the young ones fell asleep in the car, their mother decided to head home. But I am realistic. He then left !his second wife, Charlene, to cohabitate with (and propose marriage to) Diane. Their life without parole sentences are a dime a dozen and so randomly used that it beats any notion of justice for all. I know that most people think she is guilty. He is in his 70s now and his photo is not on his linkedin or anywhere I could find. Brewer changed his mind. Lise do you know if the kids have ever reached out to the grandparents/family in the last few years? Criminalist James Pex was pretty clear about this. It had nothing to do with the evidence of the case and represents useless labeling anyway. How could they expect a normal mother/daughter reunion between a beaten inmate whose mental health had degraded and a daughter trapped in this insanity? Detective Welch reminded Diane of the assault her sister witnessed in February 1983, in which steve Downs broke Dianes tailbone (Appendix 74, page 1025). And it is not like these two were white as snow. She waseighteen and soon realized that she had jumped from the fire into the frying pan. People tend to forget that the group of young women hanging out with Manson were deeply engaged in serious drug use and totally out of their mind at the time. Mission accomplished. No, Im not that gullible, Okay, I just read that she faked throwing her keys. Yes Gigi, the same judge who had removed the children was also presiding over her trial. Is it just to continue to punish her so long after she is obviously no longer a danger in any way to anyone? I know people who know or knew people is not a valid argument. She'd also shot herself in the forearm. She talked to Diane for 15 minutes, there was thebizarre and partialOprah interview that was basically a lets bash Diane event and she wrote to Diane in jail to ask her what she thought of Hugi adopting her children. Doing it without witnesses when she was so sick is underhanded. The answers to those questions do not matter anymore. And if he really was attached to them and wanted to offer them a permanent home, it means he was unfit to be the prosecutor in this case. Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. Instead, it is Diane who fought to keep her children. There is no way that a jury would convict Diane today, based on the clearly coached testimony of Christie. Nobody knows but her. According to Detective Welch, Steve Downs followed Diane to Oregon, they fought and Steves rage took the last step on the path hed been treading for a long time. You read a few comments. Diane had spent three days in the hospital ingesting massive doses of Morphine, Demerol, Percodan, and visterol. Diane said that Cheryl was laying down on the front floorboard with the passenger seat pushed back. Teen Mom 2 alum Jenelle Evans and her mom, Barbara Evans, have been feuding over custody of Jenelle's son, Jace in addition to many other issues for over a decade. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. She never mentioned that before, and she doesnt mention the FBI agents name. All smoke and mirrors to fit a certain scenario. Seems like she was her worst enemy. But you are right to say that it is my site. Of course. There is also a critical shortage of Foster Carers internationally, so that the Hugis offered to take the children in could be viewed as altruistic. Diane Downs is no exception. Isnt is odd how something we are exposed to as children can stick in our memory? The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI: Downs lawyer at the time should have objected as the term was non existent. I would say so. The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. I think that looked at through a more objective lens, many aspects of the Downs case are highly questionable. Now Diane Downs did not say any of this, but told a hard to believe story, and then changed it from one to two masked guys, etc. Within three weeks, Diane had lost custody of her remaining wounded children and had become the number one suspect in the eyes of the police department and District Attorneys office. He didn't indicate whether Downs would appeal. You do not have to agree with my general opinion outside of the facts of the case, but I would appreciate some comments on what matters; how this case was handled at trial and during the investigation. But the high profile nature of the case might hinder the process. To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for6 monthsin 2011, and there was also talk of a suspension in 2015. The bio family should have been given the same opportunity to see the kids and demonstrate their ability to be the guardians. Dianes automobile was secured and examined and no gun was found. Imagine knowing that your adoptive dad was responsible for putting your natural mom in the slammer? Most importantly why would anybody shoot 3 children potentially fatally and leave the adult with a wound in her arm. Her family members were quite capable of taking care of the children. Its a fact. She had a more than competent attorney and a fair trial before a jury and NOT the same judge who handled the childrens matters. Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. She s. After all, Cheryl Downs is basically serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole for her mothers crime. This is also what the state did to her. Police witness reports of strangers and confessions were suppressed or not pursued. I did not shoot my children.. How ironic. You mention that her attorney should have raised objections. ..a little over year before the shooting had a surrogate babypregnancy and giving the baby awayumits donnoits the gal already had a fragile mentality.may not have been the best idea. A conviction founded on lies is no conviction at all. Page 50 of Case History And Robert Knickerbocker became one of her lovers. This is basically the book best kept secrets in condensed form full of outlandish theories. She also underwent a gun residue test that same evening that revealed no trace of gun powder on her hands. Instead, there is blood splatter on the ceiling of the car. The reason she is likely locked up is because she was diagnosed with narcissistic, histrionic and anti social personality disorder, that makes her a very dangerous person (especially since she is a murderer). I guess Diane forgot to have that part engraved on the Unicorn. Foote ruled in favor of the prosecution and against the defenseon most of the admissible evidence questions including all the nurses notes about Danny talking about a man shooting him but admitted Christies reports about her mother shooting her. My beef is with the interference by the media, TV shows and Ann Rule What about the terror of being interrogated by strangers and separated from her family? Diane had consulted a psychologist after the tragedy and after months of consultation, she was never diagnosed as a sociopath. The bushy haired stranger that police had gotten a lead on worked at the country club he was at work at that time and had a sever speech impediment. Too bad it triggered you, maybe try to stay away from sites that might not go along with the mob mentality and usual media narrative. Diane was instructed to reenact her response to the attacker who murdered her daughter. Late one May night in 1983, Diane Downs sped into an emergency room dropoff in Springfield, Ore., with a horrifying story to tell. The inconsistencies and obvious lack of evidence in this case should have called for a wider investigation instead of solely focusing on their prime suspect. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. Im sorry but your article is tosh. It is beyond belief that the State of Oregon allowed the prosecutor to adopt those children. Gunpowder is one of the toughest stains around, when it comes to removing it from clothes. The prescribed normal dosage for a full grown man is 30 milligrams per day. I think she was the only one there that night with her children. So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis. It does seem time has done worse to her. I state that it is not my place to judge innocence or guilt. There are many cases where investigators jump to conclusions either because in their gut they think they know or pressure to make an arrestand i guess with all the attention this case got they gave their gut and the public what they wanted. It took months to get Christie to say that her mother was the culprit and that is when they arrested Diane. Nearly every point you make here was addressed and disproved or not even allowed into evidence. I will talk to Dianes brother. After all, she was conditioned this way. I do not post rude comments. For all my life I have thought I was not that smart, but now I can tell myself, hey cheer up could be worse. So if we started judging people harshly for their flaws, it would never end. The scene described in Small Sacrifices with little Christie hooked up to a machine and her pulse accelerates because she is terrified ofher mother is doubtful and subject to interpretation. I like your approach. Again thats opinion, and neither balanced nor objective. 4.Diane was NOT arrested for almost a year after the shootings the d.a. Christie was understandably all over the place and I agree that the way in which her statements were procured were very odd and seemed to be very coached. Makes major decisions easier because only one parent is legally responsible. In her case it seems to be more a matter of punishment. Just state that at the beginning of the blog. Diane downs. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin. It seems that a lot of what was written down never came up during testimony and some nurses even strayed from the original content. Steve Downs had allegedly stolen this gun from a friend named Billy Proctor, but after it was found and the ballistics did not match, Bill suddenly remembered keeping it only for a day before exchanging it for another Ruger automatic at a gun show in Mesa; which now meant that the gun that Diane allegedly used to shoot herself and the children, was still apparently nowhere to be found. They did a trace metal test to see if Diane had held a gun. No worries. The detectives took Diane to the crime scene and were able to retrieve shell cases on the ground where the incident happened. Saudi Princesses in Captivity for More Than a Thousand and One Nights Are Tweeting the Blues, Having recently done research on the Liysa Northons case which was the subject of a book written by Ann Rule titled, Some 287 errors and falsehoods were documented by Liysa and verified by official sources. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial: speculation It always feels like punishment at all costs. I saw footage of Diane herself laughing during the re-enactment of the crime. If the media was anything at the time it was favorable towards her. I am all for reviewing facts and getting a decision overturned in cases of corrupt decisions, and many people are on your side and find these cases totally worth their time. 4. What about the son saying that man and nurses noting that. Diane had a few lovers, which Knick refused to acknowledge (Appendix 81, pages 1508, 1520). Around 1 in 20 residents in Arkansas and Tennessee were missed during the 2020 census, and four other U.S. states had significant undercounts of their populations which could shortchange them Most people negotiate the ups and downs of . The role of Diane Downs was played by none other than Farrah Fawcett and her lover was played by Ryan ONeal who had been Farrahs love interest in real life. BUT like you rightly explain, there was no real evidence of her guilt. I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. She then went through the State (Circuit) Court habeas corpus relief for four years to no avail. They were tons of witnesses that saw him at work. How about dads side of the family? They did not want reunification to keep their verdict intact. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. They would have tried to reopen the case. Some cases are so one sided that you feel like exposing or at least, discussing the other side. I cant believe anyone even believes or even follows you. CMOH said 2 doses = minimal protection against infection . It appeared rigged: Rigged? Im all for justice, reviewing facts and overturning corrupt decisions. ?.the fact you are ignoring something SO OBVIOUS is a red flag. If you had commented on one of the elements contained in the blog, it might have been enlightening. ABC MOVIE FOR TV Small Sacrifices 1989 Farrah Fawcett, Ryan ONeal. I found nothing. I try to remain objective in spite of the media storm depicting the case in a certain way, which is not accurate in every aspect. She also told media she became pregnant without Steve's "permission." 4 Steve has never spoken publicly about his ex-wife, Diane Credit: AP Most read in News Every single one. If you are not bothered by lack of due process and a prosecutor making up psychiatric labels and adopting kids from a defendant or a judge who gets promoted from family court to criminal court to hang Diane, I am sure bothered by it. A trial should be based on facts and solid direct or circumstantial evidence. Dianes dad died a year or two ago. And some are even contradictory: shes mentally ill, but also not mentally ill; the site owner wants to focus on pure facts, yet ignore other facts; things happened in court, but those are irrelevant to what else what also happened in court, etc. She did diagnose her as suffering from cyclothymic disorder and treated her accordingly. The next day, on June 16, 1983, CSD terminated Dianes visitations with her children altogether. Page 10 of Case History. Imagine the ones there for years. I have researched the case and pointed out discrepancies and the fact that it was not the slam dunk that they were portraying. She should have had the lawyer of her choice and if they wanted to charge her with the crimes, they should have stuck with what evidence and circumstances they had. This is what Mrs Downs had to say about the situation. Celebrity Author Covers Case Ann Rule wrote 'Small Sacrifices,' later released as a movie. He has lived a life outside the public eye and hasn't ever come out to give interviews to the media about his ex-wife. Im glad you continued to look for more information as time went on. The person leaned into the car. That makes no sense. Wasnt it speculative on their part? Everyone in the world can believe something. They went after Diane at trial for tapping her foot when they played Hungry like the wolf. Her persona allowed them to build this ironclad narrative when in fact, it was far from definite. She said She did it. You said that the absence of both prove she couldnt have been to shooter and you claim it takes real scrubbing to remove GSR. Diane was sentenced to life plus 50 years. And Steven would hunt her down anyway and charm his way back into her life. To listen to Christies taped conversation, click below. Nowadays, this insanity would never be tolerated. The fact that she and her brother Danny were eventually adopted by Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs is the most blatant case of conflict of interest I have ever heard of. BUT the babies were put in Foster Care before any allegations were made Family has defended and backed Diane for her Innocence clearly from day one The state took them away from all family because family was and is the enemy Late Tom Billings had been the first who openly questioned Diane Downs guilt. No conflict of interest from a prosecutor adopting a defendants children 2 years after the fact? She was not given one inch of presumption of innocence. As a result, he decided not to attend the rest of the trial. Dilantin is known to cause mental confusion and you can check it online, but consider the dosage she was on and it needs no clarification. I agree with your comment. In this article, we can clearly see that Becky struggled and tried to justify her woes (maybe rightly so) by blaming it on her DNA. I actually do not know what really happened. Brewer stood ready to testify in June 1991, that it was because of Prosecutor Hugis lie that he changed his mind to convict and that he alone was responsible for silencing the dissenting votes of two other jurors (Appendix 97). Do you remember a couple of days after that, December Instead, they treated the Downs with great cruelty long after their daughter was incarcerated and they fought hard for them. GSR can easily fall off just by brushing your hand against a surface. It is not, nor should be, a Conflict of Interest for a caring adult to Foster one or more siblings. I can make out I will ask you to take a good look at the people in your life. Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs.. Only after these avenues are exhausted should non-relative placement be looked at. When analysing this blog, look at three statements from the blogger: Diane Downs and Alice Crummins were considered sluts According to Oregon law, this would have to be supported by a psychiatrists report or a Wardens letter and Diane provided both. Ms. Downs makes every effort to avoid emotional stimuli in order to reduce the demands made on her. The court can just do an APR, Assignment of Parental Rights. As for Diane, give me a break. But I will answer the points you raised about the blog. A sick kid who had a stroke and traumatized being pressured for weeks to remember her mother killing her? They were in a group home and he was getting unsupervised visitation with them. Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. I have nothing to gain and I am not making up songs and dances about a unicorn. Regina, I love your comment! Up. If there is a fair trial and sentencing, I usually dont write about a case, but high profile cases tend to need more scrutiny because emotions run high. One of the flaws was the relationship between the DA and the children. It was such a high profile case and she was found guilty by the media and the court so people are afraid to touch this one. They brought cakes and cookies and became friends so they were not going to fight over this. Dianes father tried to hire Melvin Belli, but the judge refused to give him some time to prepare and come back to the US. The fact that Dianes injury was way more serious than they tried to pretend? Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. Clickhere to read about faulty ballistics.. Hello. There was never a real motive for the crime even if the State insisted that Diane wanted to be free to pursue her love interest; using her journals to support theirclaim. Are her parents still living (I know they were a few years ago)? It is not a hatefest and I do not wish death or life without parole on anyone. You make an interesting observation when you say: Anyways. Diane changed her story about the stranger on the road. she chose to stay with Manson and his misfits. She says she was outside the car n watched the man shoot her children n then the only adult n person who could tell police about him only gets a shot in the arm n takes time to bandage her arm. I think that the time she has served and her good behavior made her eligible for parole. And by the way, I wrote the blogs about Rule way before she passed. The implication was not only cruel, in the light of what Diane was suffering, it was also clear. As a married man, the ball was in his court and he decided togo forit. So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety. Almost from day one, Diane was perceived as a cancer they had to remove. There is a court sketch artists rendering of him in this video. It seems that not being American might help us view the case and Rules narrative with more objectivity. http://sputniknews.com/us/20150620/1023613662.html#ixzz3djEXlSAC // The Prison State of America Dec 28, 2014 Chris Hedges, http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_prison_state_of_america_20141228 After completing his education and their short-lived high school romance, Steve Downs would move on to join the navy. This does not make her innocent. I am not biased. The harm done to families by unscrupulous district attorneys who bully children into falsely testifying against their parents has been recorded in a documentary called Witch Hunt by Sean Penn about Kern County (CA) District Attorney Ed Jagels. It probably makes you feel so good. Therefore, my understanding is that the original sentence is deemed indefinite with parole hearings every 10 years. Apparently drug mafia wanted to punish her for messing her nose in forbidden places, not because she was getting any real business in that but simply because she had one of the poorest judgements a person can have. If I included the ones I dont post, it would need more than a like or dislike button. It was pitch black outside. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. Would you seriously be confident enough to present your findings you mention in your article to Diane Downs children? Comments about the title of the website, the blogger, the bias, details like the word bipolar and when it was used when cyclothymic disorder was diagnosed by the person who treated the subject and there is an affidavit posted. She signed an affidavit to that effect and wanted the jury informed of it but it was never done. 2. I also grew up in as time of the most infamous case in Australias judicial history: Lindy Chamberlain and the dingo stole my baby. John Kitzhaber, Governor of Oregon It wasnt simply her demeanor that got her convicted. Forensics or lack thereof and blood splatter? Go to the hate groups for that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives. Legally speaking, we do not go after people because they look evil or crazy. There is only one major problem with your scenario. From what Ive read, she gets a parole hearing every decade and the next time in 2030 she will be 75. During his travels, he visited prisons and spoke against this type of barbarism because his father was imprisoned for a debt of 40 pounds and 10 shillings when he was twelve years. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. "We are obviously disappointed at the verdict. Rule even talked about writing a book about her but it never materialized. And what happened to her little daughter is beyond unethical. An earlier commenter wrote that it doesnt matter that the trail or the investigation was faultyWHAT !? As a rule, any child under the age of ten prompts counsel to question the competence of any testimony that child might give. Wasnt Mr. F supposed to be a child molester? The case NEVER made sense to me. this is your 2nd quote which contradicts the first one .. Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. A. I told Diane before, but I certainly didnt tell her to Why did they let her daughter testify when she could not know who shot her and said so incessantly until they made her say what they wanted? I found your blog to be very well written, informative and interesting. Makes no difference to me. Messed. Jump through the States hoops, or find a noose around your neck. 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