Mountain lions weigh 90-160 pounds, while bobcats weigh 20-30 pounds. I've done this myself once, in Tanzania, when I saw a black house cat that I thought was a black leopard! Note: The check station for the archery and late seasons is located at a separate location. The smell of rotting flesh was unmistakable. More Questions about Pumas in Pennsylvania. do I get an immediate, 'Oh yeah!' They reduce deadly deer-vehicle collisions and help maintain the health and viability of prey species by removing sick individuals and by reducing the spread of deadly diseases such as chronic wasting disease, an epidemic plaguing deer and elk herds throughout the country. Thank you for your interest in Pennsylvania wildlife. It is available to view online at www.pgc.pa.gov/cwd. Of course, the writer's comments were hearsay, but it does make sense. States have tried all kinds of strategies to bring down the number of crashes, from capturing and sterilizing deer to encouraging hunters to go open season. I could fill pages recounting the eye-witness reports I've heard, and for every report critics could certainly say 'but there's no physical evidence!' Mountain lions in Pennsylvania, and other eastern states, account for more reports of undiscovered animals than all the other cryptids put together. Consider that the endangered Florida puma has mixed genes. So what? Consider planting vegetation that provides both food and cover. Yes. How do I report suspected sick, injured or nuisance wildlife? I have three observations here: 1. All of the above are Mountain Lions, or Pumas, or Cougars. Wildlife diseases are usually transferred from animal to animal by nose-to-nose contact, saliva, feces and urine. Most general and add-on licenses are available on HuntFishPA. Support proper deer management actions like increased deer harvests in DMAs designed to slow the spread of CWD. Would my mountain ridge be declared 'Critical Habitat' for the puma? Natural food sources can be low this time of year, so bears are more likely to help themselves to food that is easily accessible. The Hunting and Trapping Digest serves as a great resource when it comes to questions about hunting seasons, bag limits and regulations. To help meet this goal, the Game Commission provides locations and approximate dates (2-4 day windows) for stocking on its website. After all, skeptics often suggest that puma sightings are just deer sightings, so it would be logical to worry that a hunter might shoot an endangered puma, mistaking it for a brown deer. However, if it doesn't exist, and if someone saw one, wouldn't there be a worry that it was a dangerous escapee? These factors include: habitat, weather, predation, disease and hunting mortality. Why not close pheasant hunting the day birds are stocked? I've seen about 20 mountain lions, or pumas, in the field, but all but 2 . I had three cameras positioned, so had a cat visited, I'd have had it. And while youre here, make sure you check out my free books page and help yourself. Pennsylvanias new hunting and furtaker licensing system, It is lawful for individuals to find and retain deer and elk antlers on public land, so long as they were shed through natural causes. After enhancing a few frames, however, I was able to deduce that it was, indeed, a large feline of some kind. buy hey, maybe some got out? However, if you've seen a mountain lion, or other mystery creature, or evidence of either, in Pennsylvania, contact outdoor writer Marcus Schneck at mschneck@pennlive.com.). This is not a Pennsylvania puma! Call the region office that serves the county where the animal is located, directly. Over the years Ive had whitetail deer visits that number in the hundreds, if not thousands, wild turkeys showing up in groups that often number forty or more individuals, opossum, bobcats, hedgehogs, groups of raccoons, and once, a half-dozen deer that made our resident whitetails look like midgets. He said he'd never forget the sighting, but it was only when he saw another, a few months ago, in daylight, from his cabin, that he decided it was time to tell someone. That a hunter holds no more than six unfilled licenses at a time. This ensures that all hens have had opportunities to breed with gobblers, and lay their full clutch of eggs, uninterrupted by hunters. Learn more about Pennsylvania elk. The post-Christmas grouse season, (hereafter late season), is well-loved by many grouse hunters. Can I use a metal detector on state game lands? All rights reserved. HuntFishPA, is equipped to provide hunters and trappers with electronic versions of the licenses they buy. Thousands of deer scamper onto American streets each year, colliding with startled drivers and causing roughly 200 deaths. The Game Commissions CWD Surveillance Dashboard is available online at https://pgcdatacollection.pa.gov/CWDResultsLookup. They, like all cats, have extremely sensitive noses and dont like having them abused. That may be true, or was once true, but even a declawed puma, if it can survive off rabbits and squirrels, and breeds, its offspring would be fully equipted to survive. If we don't see it, it doesn't exist. The rule change could make more antlerless licenses available deeper into hunting season, perhaps giving hunters who purchase their licenses later a chance to get one. What is Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)? Populations with an abundance of hens have rebounded from poor hatch years in as few as two years, producing more gobblers than areas without an abundance of hens. Many of those claiming to have encountered a cougar in Pennsylvania take that non-confirmation by the commission as an attack on their veracity and character. Frankly, I was afraid to call it in, as I feared someone would come and shoot the animal. Transmission is thought to occur through biting insects and possibly by direct contact with other infected deer or various contaminated materials in the environment that might scratch the skin allowing the virus to invade. The digest is also available for printing and viewing online. Unless I am only dealing with a lot of delusional people with little judgment, something is out there. Thank you in advance for helping to protect Pennsylvania wildlife. DNA tests confirmed the big cat originated in South Dakota and that it also previously had been tracked in 2009 and 2010 through Wisconsin and Minnesota, where the animal's DNA had previously been collected through blood, hair and droppings. Cougar or Bobcat? pgccomments@pa.gov. No. No. Penn's Woods is our state's nickname due to our forests, which blanket more than 60 percent of our state, and more than 92 percent of our state game lands. The Game Commission has various wildlife management plans, for many game and nongame species, to ensure long-term sustainability of the resource. Species such as grouse and rabbits are eaten infrequently while species such as turkey and goshawk were not identified within remains found in diet research. Still, our research shows females (both juvenile and adult) comprise a larger portion of the fall harvest than males. My friend was a former hunter and fisherman, and spent a lot of time in the woods, as did I, but neither of us had ever seen a coyote. Pennlive.com reports trappers kill more than 40,000 of them in Pennsylvania every year. If its further back, it could be a far larger specimen and could conceivably weigh twice that. Thank you in advance for helping to protect Pennsylvania wildlife! The northeastern U.S. population is thought to have disappeared in the 1930s. The increased light provided from knocking back small saplings and brush coupled with reduction in leaf litter or grass thatch will greatly enhance opportunities for new species to grow, particularly native grasses and forbs. However, that said, this past winter we did have a very large bobcat attempt to take a deer behind the house. Im 61 tall and it comes up to my knee. What factors are causing turkey populations to decline? Yet, again, were assuming that our mystery cat is right up against the steps. Does Penn State Harrisburg Have Greek Life? Two different people told me that they, or a close relative, had seen pumas on more than one occasion. Interesting, too, are the reports I've heard from people who were told that they would be in big trouble if they shot a puma. Encourage officials at all levels of government to support the steps necessary to slow the spread of CWD across Pennsylvania. Gobblers harvested during the spring season do not impact the overall turkey population because the males we harvest are taken after peak breeding and when over half of the hens have begun incubating eggs. Ironically, I almost deleted the image, as on the small camera LCD monitor the cat was small and I thought that it was just another deer that moved along the stream. Unnatural congregation can lead to overcrowded wildlife. I receive about one email or phone call a month, on average, from people that I do not know who are contacting me because their sighting compelled them to do a Google search on puma sightings, and they found my site and previously posted questions. Game Commission selections are made after reviewing the previous years hunter harvests, population survey data and public input. Note the size of the tail, the pointed ears, the speckled coat, the basic lack of white underneath. The Pennsylvania Game Commissions website, mobile app and Hunting and Trapping Digest are all great resources when looking for information related to current hunting and trapping seasons and beg limits. How would mountain lions impact black bears? Office of Open Records: Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, Office of Open Records, Commonwealth Keystone Building, 400 North Street, 4th Floor, Harrisburg, PA 17120-0225. Mountain lions are also great jumpers and swimmers. Anyone, ages 11 and up, can currently register for Pennsylvanias online Hunter-Trapper Education course. You can also call the Game Commission's replacement card fulfillment center at 1-800-830-2268 for assistance in obtaining a replacement certificate. Although no tail is visible, in terms of proportions, it appears more like a mountain lion than it does a bobcat, which tend to have shorter, more compact bodies and comparatively longer legs. Confirming an animal is infected with CWD requires laboratory testing of the brain or lymph nodes of the head. A mentored hunter can only hunt deer, turkey, squirrel, rabbit, hare, ruffed grouse, bobwhite quail, pheasant, crow, dove, porcupine, woodchuck and coyote in any of their respective seasons, and must follow daily and season bag limits for each species, (one antlered deer, one fall turkey and one bearded turkey in the spring, per license year). Then there is Rocky. Taking hunting out of the equation, the nature of mature birds in spring (gobbling and displaying) makes them more susceptible to natural predation. When is the peak of the elk rut? One spotted in the Delaware Water Gap 25 years ago this week was believed to be the first in over a century. If you purchase a snow goose conservation permit, you must submit a snow goose harvest online at HuntFishPA, even if you were not successful. Since there is no treatment or cure, limiting deer contact and interaction by increasing deer harvests across DMAs is one of the only ways to manage CWD on the landscape. Several populations of Gray Squirrels scattered around the country are black, and recently I heard of a neighborhood of black Eastern Chipmunks. My next step was to gauge the shoulder height of the cat. Can an adult mentor take more than one JUNIOR hunter hunting at a time? Suppose, instead of declaring the puma, or Eastern mountain lion, extinct, the USFWS actually recognized the existence of the cat as a wild, breeding species. Mid-level vegetation is often left standing, but is often top-killed by the fire, meaning the stem is dead but it will resprout from the roots. Try to block the mountain lion from your eyes and face as you strike it. Fish and Wildlife Service formally declared the eastern cougar extinct, but said the subspecies had probably been stamped out in the 1930s. The animal could not be a wild mountain lion, because "there are no wild mountain lions in Pennsylvania." This was the approach of the PGC until a farmer named Roger saw a mountain lion, along with several other people on his remote farm, during a large outdoor party -- a party which included a big roast pig barbeque, near the edge of a forest. The estimated muzzleloader harvest was 28,260, of which 1,140 were antlered deer. Recently the US Fish and Wildlife Service formally declared the Eastern Puma an extinct species, except for the remnant population in Florida. While weather conditions and dryness are the primary factors for scheduling, the Game Commission also considers potential impacts to plants and animals, particularly those listed as "threatened" or "endangered," and adjusts burn timing accordingly to reduce conflicts. The uncut and unedited footage is as follows: Granted, at first glance the clip seems to reveal nothing except an animal with obvious eyeshine moving furtively along. How do I submit a Right-to-Know request? I believe them. Many of the reports I receive are extremely credible. Who knows? A few additional ways to help prevent bears getting into garbage: Keep garbage cans clean by washing them out a few times a year with bleach or ammonia; keep bears from easily getting inside cans by attaching ratchet straps (not bungee cords) across the lid in an X pattern; and do not strap cans to a tree or post, as doing so actually gives a bear leverage to more easily access a can if someone is using an actual bear-proof container or using the ratchet straps. On a recent stifling morning in Adams County, the 290-pound mountain lion with perfect bone structure is ignoring the raw chicken breast and pork chops a handler tossed into his pen. For mentored hunters ages 7 and older, the permit includes antlered deer, fall turkey and spring turkey harvest tags. Support increased financial assistance for wildlife and agricultural agencies to combat CWD. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Advance Local. I don't know if a Game Commission authority has actually said this or not, but people I've spoken to have reported this. It wasn't, and I assumed it was a road-kill. Pennsylvania's last known wild eastern mountain lion was killed in Berks County in 1874. Follow these guidelines to prevent the spread of the disease: 1. Initially, the purpose of pheasant stocking was to help establish self-sustaining populations. If you see or photograph a puma in the mid-Atlantic states, please email or call me. With declining turkey populations in many Wildlife Management Units, it might seem logical to eliminate the second spring gobbler tag to reduce harvest. How do I report my elk harvest? Please dont feed wildlife, it may cause more harm than good! While the chances that I'll ever see a puma in Pennsylvania myself are virtually zero, I'm always on the alert -- for the bobcat I've never seen in Pa., for a fisher, bear, deer, red salamander, toad, or snake, and yes, I'm always hoping that I too will become one of those who saw something that officially cannot exist within the state, a puma I know I saw but, of course, could not have! I was stupid to not take pics of the tracks. Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. Mountain lions were once widespread across North America, but their range shrunk dramatically as they were pursued through unregulated hunting and by farmers aiming to protect their livestock, and moved off the landscape by habitat fragmentation. First, inline muzzleloaders are far more efficient, compared to a flintlock rifle. A permitted person taking a bobcat or fisher must report the harvest within 48 hours online at HuntFishPA or by phone at 1-800-838-4431. More information is available here. Why cant I purchase antlerless deer tags online? "Cougars are hunting deer year-round. For information about local game lands, please reach out to the Game Commission region office that serves the county in which the lands are located. Can the public still access Pennsylvania State Game Lands? Thank you for your interest in Pennsylvania wildlife. Most general and add-on licenses are available in-store. Yes. Then I saw and was like, 'It could be a bobcat, possibly mountain lion,' " Nick Dodge said. I went back there with the cop who showed up. And again, while they may have been mistaken, they certainly were completely convinced that they had seen a puma. Moreover, this approach would be exceedingly difficult to implement logistically because open and closed dates for individual counties and properties would differ across the state and change from week to week throughout the season. Over time, cats that had been released in Florida, probably pets that outlived their welcome, bred with the native puma, and their genes mingled. There is one significant change to Pennsylvania waterfowl seasons for the upcoming season which drops the bag limit during the regular season in the Atlantic Population (AP) goose zone to one Canada goose a day. From a deer management perspective, it would be possible to allow the use of inline muzzleloaders during the late season flintlock season if the hunters were required to use their antlerless tag for that specific Wildlife Management Unit (WMU). For the sake of clarity, the lowest portion of the wall supporting the railing to the right is 6.75 inches in height (this is directly beside and in front of the cat in question). Many people feed wildlife to experience a closer encounter with wild animals, help animals survive in the winter or to increase the number of game animals. In February 2021, the Pennsylvania Game Commission and Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission launched HuntFishPA, a new user-friendly licensing platform for hunters, anglers and boaters. The counties typically with the highest harvest are in the northcentral part of the state, namely Clinton, Lycoming and Tioga counties. Mountain lions live in rescue centers like Murray's, and the Pennsylvania Game Commission said a dozen or so people are permitted to possess them. Over the last two years I have occasionally posted a Question of the Month soliciting sightings from people who believed that they have seen a mountain lion in Pennsylvania or in other areas in the mid-Atlantic states. Is there a correct position for the upright on a Wimberley actionhead. I am bothered by the constricted neck of the cat on the game camera; 2. the tail is curved down, rather than up, but it may have been in mid-swing; 3. the goldenrod-appearing flower, and the background of cars, gives a sense of scale and location. Crews will then continue burning into the wind and downslope, sending fire into the previously burned or blackened area. If you encounter a dead or injured animal that you suspect is a victim of a wildlife crime, please report the instance to the Operation Game Thiefs toll-free hotline 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year at 1-888-PGC-8001 or fill out an online form at When are prescribed fires scheduled? For the latest information about COVID-19 in Pennsylvania, please visit the Pennsylvania Department of Healths website at www.health.pa.gov. Game wardens conducted a full investigation and concluded that Alyssa did indeed act in self defense. With less deer roaming forests, she said, plant and bird biodiversity might improve, too. Hunters I've spoken with said they've been told you can't kill a puma, which they felt was ironic since the same official told them pumas don't exist in Pa. Animals like coyotes and black bears can become a potential threat and cause harm to both humans and pets. Effective July 1, 2013; a $16 fee is charged for issuing a hunter education replacement certificate. Are mountain lions living in Pennsylvania today? Based on the image below, wherein I have used red dots to outline the cats body, I am a bit hard pressed to say that it is a bobcat. Can You Shoot A Mountain Lion In Pennsylvania? 2019 mountain lion in Pennsylvania / definitive proof Joe and Angelika Kelley 12 subscribers Subscribe 91 16K views 3 years ago When something digs up your yard and you film it. Photos submitted as mountain lions are typically feral housecats. What is the Kiboko backpack? What does a Mountain Lion look like on a game camera? Through stringent trap testing, BMPs provide a guide to trappers for ensuring animal welfare and trap efficiency for each individual species. How do I report my snow goose harvest? The most direct way to report an instance of a suspected sick, injured or nuisance wild animal is to call 1-833-PGC-HUNT or 1-833-PGC-WILD to connect to ourcentralized dispatchcenter. Other exceptions are included with species seasons below. I don't believe someone's imagination could stretch a six inch long tail to three feet! In only one report had an official from the Pennsylvania Game Commision, a local warden, actually agree with the person reporting the sighting. I have received about two dozen reports during that time, including one game camera image that still looks very credible to me. How do I report suspected wildlife crimes? Now, if there were any escapes, and if any of these bred with a possible minuscule number of eastern pumas, a relic native population, wouldn't the gene pool be corrupted? The cat was far enough away that I couldn't get a size reference, and I believed the cat was further away than it actually was. State law currently mandates that the Pennsylvania Game Commission utilizes county treasurers offices in the antlerless license distribution process. Public health officials are warning hunters to cook their bear and cougar meat well after 10 Idahoans contracted a rare strain of trichinosis from tainted cougar jerky. An animal's coat can stray far from the norm. Hunters overwhelmingly pass on jakes, further enhancing their survival to fill the place of older toms removed after breeding each year with minimal impact to the population. On the second night, a mountain lion passed by, apparently drawn by the smell but put off by the stench, as the cat did not visit the kill. The agencys goal is to maintain proper wild turkey management strategies while providing maximum hunting opportunities. Its the basis of a classic fishing trick; you hold a fish a bit away from you to make it appear larger for the camera. In personal contacts, that monthly average might even be higher. Two other reports went, in detail, on what they saw, the size, the length of tail, etc. The reason biologists believe predation rates increase in wet weather has to do with scenting conditions. Larger and more aggressive animals often exclude younger and weaker animals which causes aggressive behavior resulting in injuries and even death for particularly vulnerable individuals. Certainly, wild pheasants are preferred; however, our stocked pheasants provide countless hours of hunting recreation that otherwise would not be available. Are there Mountain Lions in Pennsylvania? That smacks of mountain lion behavior pun intended. Granted, the image is not great, and I used some Photoshop adjustment layers to enhance the image, making it a bit easier to see. Wildlife crimes affect everyone. So it happens, and who knows if it is existing in wild pumas in the East. Now, if there were any escapes, and if any of these bred with a possible minuscule number of eastern pumas, a relic native population, wouldn't the gene pool be corrupted? Where can I find a local hunting license vendor? How, Who, and Why? Several states have shortened or closed their grouse season after grouse populations crashed. The doe bolted for the trees with the cat still attached, and every 6 feet or so you could see a large impression in the snow, which mustve been the cats rump as it was hanging on with teeth and claws. This was fortunate, of course, as I was able to use items in the frame for comparison, to match the size of said images and the steps in additional photos. Their are two web sites I know of that dealt with eastern pumas, with the one, the Eastern Puma Research Network, concentrating on sightings in the east. I am hoping that more and more people will learn of my own interest in this, and will pass on this information and that I'll receive more reports and, hopefully, sometime, a game camera photo that is definitive. For example, one man I interviewed said he saw a 'black' puma, and this should disqualify his sighting as a black puma has never been recorded. The footage is dark and amorphous, and very hard to make out. The new process is simpler, since the same distribution rules now apply to all WMUs, and it maintains fair and equitable distribution. Which Penn State Campus Is Best For Criminal Justice? These color morphs are most common in rain forests and jungles. I'd suspect it would still be considered very rare, after all, it was thought to be extinct. Although size can be difficult to determine in the field, a puma will be three or four times larger than a bobcat. I receive about one email or phone call a month, on average, from people that I do not know who are contacting me because their sighting compelled them to do a Google search on puma sightings, and they found my site and previously posted questions. Click here to learn more about our agency and its history. Quick and easy replacement is available online at www.ilostmycard.com. What are the benefits of having a concurrent antlered and antlerless deer hunting season? The mountain lion, which is also called a cougar, puma or panther, weighs on . How do I report suspected sick, injured or nuisance wildlife? Do not run from a lion. Late-stage signs of CWD-infected animals include an extreme loss of body condition; excessive drinking, urination, salivation and drooling; and behavioral and neurologic changes such as repetitive walking patterns, droopy ears, a wide-based stance, and listlessness. 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